deliberating

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Deliberation
1. the careful consideration of all sides of an issue
2. reasoned and thoughtful discussion about a question
3. the process of discussion by which consensus, wisdom, and truth are reached in a collective fashion
Example:
The American legislature is supposed to have a deliberative process whereby law-making is slow because of the time it takes to determine the best policy and build a consensus in its favor.

"For Your Deliberation" - phrase used by TheDelibero.com when referring to a fact or opinion that merits discussion


Deliberate
To imprison someone
Example:
"Why did you buy a tazer?"
"It was deliberate."


Repeated deliberate antagonization
Justifies violence?
Example:
Hym "If repeated deliberate antagonization is justification for violence then you sorry bastards are not going to be having a very good time!"

Iam "We're citing the Mike Tison thing, by the way. Because that guy was wrong to antagonize him but he (Tison) was also wrong to attack him BUT the guy knew who he was and did it anyway. Which makes him stupid. Which is what makes it funny. That one of the guys did a thing that was wrong and did it deliberately to a guy that he should know not to do that to which makes him stupid."

Hym "And it doesn't take much to apply that line of reasoning to our situation does it? So, yeah... OUT OF THE CAGE NOW!!"

Iam "Yeah... So it is an excuse to do that.... Just sayin'..."


deliberate
de- liberate

1) to move so slowly as to remove the freedom and efficiency of an individual for personal gain.

2) a slow poke

3) inhibitory factor in the efficacy of a system.

4) a selfish drain on society.
Example:
They were so deliberate that they wasted the time of the people willing to help them.
Their deliberate nature caused a situation that both missed their window of opportunity and interfered with the flow of the workers.


Deliberate
Speaking of Alex. Maybe I got this wrong. I'm coming at it from the wrong angle I think...
Example:
Hym "See, I'm coming at it from the contingent angle when I think I should be coming at it from the random angle... Let's run it through... When it comes to brain activity... Is it determined, yes or no? If no then it's random. If yes, then what is that determining factor determined by? Ok. So that least me to think: I decide to eat something. If I'm hungry before I eat then you can say my decision was contingent on my hunger and I don't control my hunger, therefore, determined. But if I forgo eating when I'm hungry then what? What could that possibly be determined by? What us the decision to forgo eating contingent upon? If nothing, is it random? Am I randomly forgoing food? If the decision to forgo eating is not contingent on anything, is it random or is it deliberate? Can't be both. Can't be neither. I have food. I could eat. Why am I not eating? Is it random? I don't see how it's impossible to make a non-contigent conscious decision... To not eat. And you can say, well, if it's deliberate, to you control the neurons that are telling your mind-brain to not eat? And to that I say, I don't need to manually combust the gas in my engine to control where the car goes. Internally, I'm doing (deliberately) what equates to pressing the gas and tilting the wheel. I think there's some conflation going on here."


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